Ben Roberts-Smith has broken his silence since being charged with war crimes, giving an extensive interview to 2GB's Ben Fordham this morning. The former SAS soldier and Victoria Cross recipient is facing five counts of murder.
Roberts-Smith said he was motivated to tell his side of the story. "I really think if you're going to go through this type of scenario, then you should be given a fair go, and that's all I've ever asked for," he said.
Pushed by Fordham on the substance of the charges, Roberts-Smith doubled down on his defence. "I didn't bloody murder anyone," he said, agreeing with the host that he would have remembered if he had. He described the Defence investigation into allegations of misconduct by Australian soldiers, which found credible information suggesting unlawful overseas killings, as an "absolute farce".
A significant portion of the interview focused on the practice of "throw downs" (placing weapons or radios on the bodies of dead civilians to make them look like combatants). Roberts-Smith framed this as a standard part of documenting operations.
"We were told to put weapons on the bodies for the photographs because they wanted it all in one photo, so we could send it back," he told Fordham. "So moving things around... it was actually a directive from the leadership."
The reporters covering the interview noted that this directly contradicts testimony from the defamation trial Roberts-Smith lost in 2023. At that trial, a number of SAS witnesses revealed that individual soldiers carried throw down items (including folding-stock AK-47s and radios) in their assault packs. Furthermore, two witnesses testified that it was Roberts-Smith himself who instructed people in the practice during a pre-deployment rehearsal in 2012.
Roberts-Smith rejected accusations of a "cowboy culture" inside the Australian Defence Force. He said that while soldiers used to "blow off steam", they were the most professional soldiers when it was "game time". He stated he never broke the rules of engagement and would do it all "exactly the same way".
He also spoke about the personal toll, saying it was "hard" to see his twin teenage daughters exposed to the allegations. He said he first heard rumours through the media, and that the allegations initially had nothing to do with war crimes, but bullying.