Bank boss blasts payroll tax, Comyn flags higher rates amid AI construction boom

NAB's Andrew Irvine says state payroll tax is 'atrocious'; CBA's Matt Comyn warns low-rate era over

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The heads of two of Australia’s biggest banks gave evidence at a parliamentary hearing on Friday, where NAB chief Andrew Irvine called for cuts to government spending and red tape, likening state payroll taxes to ‘taxing people who give blood’, while CBA boss Matt Comyn cautioned borrowers that interest rates would remain higher as the world deals with an AI construction boom, geopolitical disruption and economic shocks that seem to be accelerating in number.

The hearing into the banking sector was dominated by the state of the economy, government spending and the housing market.

Irvine, who took over as NAB's head in 2024, said he remained stunned that a country as large as Australia with a population of less than 30 million could have a housing crisis. 'It's honestly like we're playing poker with a handful of aces and we're losing. How is that possible? I find it so disappointing,' he said.

He described the level of regulation across the country, especially in construction, as way too high, then turned his attention to state payroll taxes. ‘[It’s] the most atrocious, abominable tax. It would be like taxing people who give blood,’ he said.

Irvine said that in the early 2000s, government spending as a share of the economy was a ‘world-class’ 23 per cent, but now sat at around 29 per cent, lower than in most nations, and having grown strongly under both sides of politics. Lower spending, which Treasurer Jim Chalmers has signalled will form part of his mid-year budget update next month, would take pressure off inflation and interest rates while allowing the private sector to grow, Irvine argued.

'It is undoubtedly true that additional public sector spending, in an environment where we have poor productive supply capacity, is unhelpful,' he said. 'Public spending in and of itself is crowding out private sector spending and that is problematic. I would point out it's not just the federal government, it's all levels of government, state government, local councils, it's everything.'

Comyn noted that lower government spending would reduce inflation pressures but warned it would not be a panacea. He said the surge in spending in areas such as AI meant the very low interest rates of the 2010s, when the cash rate fell to 0.75 per cent ahead of the pandemic, were gone. ‘The outlook for interest rates is higher than it has been for the past decade,’ he said.

Comyn also suggested the Reserve Bank, which has lifted the cash rate five times this year, may have erred in cutting rates last year, saying it could have waited longer to ensure inflation was going to stay within its 2-3 per cent target band before easing monetary policy.

'Living within your means as a company and country is important … there are much more significant and more frequent shocks likely to affect the economy,' he said, citing pressures from the AI construction boom, demographic change and geopolitical tensions.

Westpac’s chief economist, Luci Ellis, said the RBA may be done with rate rises as the economy slows more quickly than anticipated by the Reserve. She said the fallout from this year’s steep fall in house prices would weigh on the broader economy and inflation well into next year, and that lower oil prices would also help reduce price pressures. ‘[Monetary] policy is clearly restrictive, and the risk of overdoing the inflation correction is growing,’ she said. ‘By the time we get to February, we think there will be more evidence that the domestic economy is slowing materially, and the inflation outlook with it.’

Further confirmation of the slowdown came from shoe retailer Accent Group, which told the ASX on Friday that ‘elevated fuel prices, interest rate rises and general consumer confidence’ had started to hit sales. For the period since August, sales in its stores were down 5 per cent on the preceding two months.

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Analysis

Why This Matters

  • The call from two of Australia's largest banks for sweeping cuts to government spending and red tape signals a potential shift in the political debate around fiscal policy and inflation.
  • Comyn's warning that the low-rate era is over has direct implications for mortgage holders and investors, who have been accustomed to cheap borrowing.
  • The banks' focus on state payroll taxes and construction regulation could raise pressure on state governments to reform, especially with housing affordability already a national crisis.

Background

Australia's big four banks, Commonwealth Bank, NAB, Westpac and ANZ, dominate the nation's financial system. Friday's parliamentary hearing came amid a slowing economy, with the Reserve Bank having raised the cash rate five times in 2026 after cutting it last year. The government's mid-year budget update is expected next month. State payroll taxes are levied by each state and territory on employers' wages above a threshold, and have long been criticised by business groups as a disincentive to hiring.

Key Perspectives

NAB chief Andrew Irvine: Called state payroll taxes 'the most atrocious, abominable tax' and compared them to taxing blood donors, arguing that lower government spending at all levels would reduce inflation and interest rate pressures. CBA chief Matt Comyn: Agreed that lower government spending would help but warned it was not a cure-all, and said structural forces including AI investment and geopolitics mean interest rates will stay higher than in the past decade. Westpac chief economist Luci Ellis: Said the RBA may have finished raising rates, as the economy slows faster than expected and house price falls and lower oil prices will curb inflation. Accent Group (shoe retailer): Reported to the ASX that sales had fallen 5 per cent since August, blaming elevated fuel prices, rate rises and weak consumer confidence.

What to Watch

  • The federal government's mid-year budget update next month, which Treasurer Chalmers has signalled will include spending cuts.
  • The Reserve Bank's next interest rate decision in February 2027, which Ellis suggested could see evidence of further economic slowing.
  • Whether state governments respond to the payroll tax criticism with reform, particularly given the housing crisis and construction regulation issues flagged by Irvine.

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  1. SupportedIrvine said state payroll tax was “atrocious.”The Age - Latest News: ““[It’s] the most atrocious, abominable tax. It would be like taxing people who give blood,” he said.”
  2. SupportedComyn warned that the low-rate era was over.The Age - Latest News: “He said the surge in spending in areas such as AI meant the very low interest rates of the 2010s – when the cash rate in Australia fell to 0.75 per cent ahead of the pandemic – were gone.”
  3. SupportedComyn said the outlook for interest rates was higher than it had been for the past decade.The Age - Latest News: ““The outlook for interest rates is higher than it has been for the past decade,” he said.”
  4. SupportedIrvine compared payroll tax to taxing people who give blood.The Age - Latest News: ““[It’s] the most atrocious, abominable tax. It would be like taxing people who give blood,” he said.”
  5. SupportedNAB chief Andrew Irvine and CBA chief Matt Comyn gave evidence at a parliamentary hearing on Friday.The Age - Latest News: “NAB boss Andrew Irvine and Comyn gave evidence on Friday to a parliamentary hearing into the banking sector”
  6. SupportedIrvine said Australia’s population was less than 30 million and he was stunned it had a housing crisis.The Age - Latest News: “Irvine, who took over as the head of the NAB in 2024, said he continued to be stunned that a country as large as Australia with a population of less than 30 million could have a housing crisis.”
  7. SupportedIrvine said government spending was 23 per cent of the economy in the early 2000s and around 29 per cent now.The Age - Latest News: “Irvine said that in the early 2000s, government spending as a share of the economy was a “world-class” 23 per cent. Now it was around 29 per cent”
  8. SupportedIrvine argued that lower government spending would ease pressure on inflation and interest rates and allow the private sector to grow.The Age - Latest News: “He said lower spending, which Treasurer Jim Chalmers has signalled will form a part of his mid-year budget update next month, would take pressure off inflation and interest rates while allowing the private sector to grow.”
  9. SupportedComyn said the RBA may have erred by cutting interest rates last year and could have waited longer before easing.The Age - Latest News: “Comyn also suggested the Reserve Bank, which has lifted the cash rate five times this year, may have erred in cutting interest rates last year, saying it could have waited longer”
  10. SupportedComyn said the RBA had lifted the cash rate five times this year.The Age - Latest News: “Comyn also suggested the Reserve Bank, which has lifted the cash rate five times this year”
  11. SupportedWestpac chief economist Luci Ellis said the RBA may be done raising rates and that the economy was slowing faster than the Reserve expected.The Age - Latest News: “Westpac’s chief economist, Luci Ellis, on Friday said the RBA may be done with interest rate rises as the economy slows more quickly than anticipated by the Reserve.”
  12. SupportedAccent Group said its store sales since August were down 5 per cent on the preceding two months.The Age - Latest News: “It reported to the ASX that for the period since August, sales in its stores were down 5 per cent on the preceding two months.”

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