Appearing on Sunrise, the two MPs debated how to tackle Australia's ongoing inflation problem, which has seen interest rates rise despite major cuts to disability and aged care in the last federal budget.
Treasurer Jim Chalmers has signaled scant cost-of-living relief in the next budget, citing massive loan repayments due to borrowing costs.
Labor MP Josh Burns acknowledged the difficulty, saying inflation "really hurts people in the lower and middle income the most." He said the government is looking to spend on services that grow the economy, including housing, skills and medicine, and asked: "Do you cut all of the essential services? Do you stop making medicines $25 so people can afford it? Do you stop aged care services?"
Barnaby Joyce countered that the solution is simpler than Burns suggested, pointing to spending on renewable energy as a key driver of inflation. "Take your tinfoil hat off for a second," Joyce said as the pair traded barbs.
Sunrise host Nat Barr pressed Burns on where Labor intends to make cost-cutting efforts, to which Burns replied: "These are really difficult problems."